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I've heard that there was a Japanese incremental games community before, but this is the first time I've come across signs of such a community. Now I'm wondering what's going on over there.
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Aside from the sources you mentioned, I browse the itch page for games tagged incremental. There's a lot of stuff there which isn't posted on the other channels, although most aren't personally engaging to me. Still, I find some gems once in a while.
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This week I've been replaying Algebraic Progression. It's much slower than I remember, and I cheated via the console multiple times to get past parts that I found really slow. I guess I'm just accustomed to Squareixion, which for the most part won't progress unless you actively monitor the game.
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This one looks genuinely interesting.
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This week I've been mainly continuing my run of Antimatter Dimensions NG-5 (you have to go into the settings to find that mod). However, for some reason every github.io page refuses to load for me. I had to go to the page for the repository and download it.
I found a game this week called Our Ascent, which is a "run-based" incremental (aka has a lot more in common with roguelites than most incrementals). I enjoyed it enough to make a post here where I outlined some of my issues with the game. I also joined its discord server (yes I know) where I found that it was inspired by an Android game called "Inflation RPG". Other people say that another similar game is "Zawia RPG", also on Android. Too bad I can't install games on Android...
Lastly, I've managed to get past sector 74 in Unnamed Space Idle (there's also a steam page). A lot of mechanics open up past that point, and in pretty quick succession too. It was a sharp contrast with the pretty long wait I had to endure to get to that point.
I found [Our Ascent](https://noobilator7.itch.io/our-ascent) a few hours back and only stopped playing it recently. It's one of those games where you're under a time limit and you're supposed to accomplish as much as you can, and it relies primarily on RPG mechanics. I like it, although I have some minor nitpicks: 1. It's a bit difficult to tell when adjacent areas can't be crossed (water-to-land and vice versa). I got used to it though. 2. Restarting a run takes slightly more time navigating the UI than is comfortable. 3. The backgrounds in the game are AI-generated. I don't feel too strongly on this one because the dev said they'd replace the art once they got funds to hire artists. 4. You can play as multiple characters, each with their own campaign that provides global boosts to all characters. But the boosts are so minor that I'm not really motivated to play them. 5. You need to do some calculations in order to find out the effective power of percentage-based statistics. Maybe this is intentional, I dunno. Again, these are minor nitpicks. I really really like the game. I'm not sure why I'm posting some of these nitpicks here, the dev hasn't even heard of this place. #incremental_games
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The title explains most of what's going on. Here's some additional relevant info that can also be found in the link: * Submissions will be accepted until 2024-07-20 17:00:00 UTC. * This jam's theme is "Evasion". What that means is up for interpretation. If you were planning on submitting an entry, this is a reminder in case you forgot about the jam (although it's a day late). And for the rest of us players, stay tuned for submissions!
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This week I've been playing lots of Antimatter Dimensions. I decided to pull a save at 1 Reality and start from there, since I feel the game flows better that way. I don't intend to complete the game, I'll probably end my run as soon as Automator scripts become required.
I've also been playing some mods of that game. Aarex has a collection of mods from before the Reality update. To access all of the mods, you have to go into the "settings" tab, click "load", then click on the "mods" section in the pop-up. I've been playing NG-5, which nerfs you heavily but adds 2 new pre-infinity prestige layers to compensate. I really like this kind of mod, because you get to experience the new content right from the beginning of the game. It's a bit too slow for me, but I'm okay with that. The alternative, which is adding in one of the mods that buffs me, makes the game too fast and prevents me from appreciating the new content.
I tried playing Antimatter Dimensions: Simplified, which aims to make the content of the Reality Update easier to digest. I like what it's trying to do, but my problem with it is that it's too easy - it becomes a test of how quickly I can navigate through the UI. It also doesn't seem to do anything about the Automator being required at some point in the game. Still, I'll keep a save of it just in case.
In other news, I've been trying to learn the Canvas API in order to replicate the grid in CLEANSED. Progress is slow, but I'm getting there. My current task is making sure that the grid will look clean no matter what font I select or what size it is, which (I think) requires the use of TextMetrics.
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Sounds fun! I'd reinstall the game if only to be able to help fellow players. Sadly, I can't download the game now due to restrictions on my device.
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A strange downloadable short game I found on itch.io whose first part is an incremental. It's simple mechanically, but it is in 3D and has sounds which makes it stand out. They really contribute to the experience, and the nearly numberless way of conveying information is really charming. I have no idea if there's anything after the incremental though besides that part where cubes fall for eternity. It's a strange game, as I said earlier.
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This week I played some more of Vepro's games. In particular, Yet Another Merge Game and Universe Shrinker. Both games have big enough numbers to warrant large number libraries. However, I noticed that in Universe Shrinker the shrinking of universes was represented on an exponential scale but could be easily translated to a linear scale. I guess I could find more examples of this in the "really big numbers" group of incremental games, but that one felt glaringly obvious to me.
I was browsing itch.io for new incremental games this week, and found Centrist Simulator. It seems to be good although it's short and the appeal looks different from most other incremental games. Haven't played it yet.
edit: haha I messed up the link format again
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Okay, posted it! I'm kinda nervous about it though - it's been a while since I posted outside of this instance.
!incremental_games@incremental.social https://incremental.social/m/incremental_games (it seems the first link doesn't work, sorry) This is a community for discussing incremental games, which are games which revolve almost entirely around the process of making numbers bigger (I'm simplifying a bit here - what makes a game incremental is rather vague and has spawned a considerable amount of discussion over the years). The most well-known example of this type of game is probably Cookie Clicker, although its mechanics are considered outdated by current standards. Other notable examples include Universal Paperclips, Antimatter Dimensions, and Kittens Game (these are fairly old too). Discussions from the viewpoints of players and the viewpoints of developers are both welcome there. Disclaimer: This community is not exactly new. There was a post in !fediverse@lemmy.ml about the community around half a year ago. However, someone said it would be perfectly okay to make a post here despite that so I posted here. Also I'm not a mod of this community but am fairly involved with it.
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Well, there was a post by thepaperpilot about the instance made on !fediverse@lemmy.ml half a year ago. Not much has changed about the instance that would be relevant to people from other instances since then, so I'm hesitant to make another promotion post for the instance. On the other hand, the community you mentioned is not the one thepaperpilot posted to around half a year ago (and one where promoting communities you belong to is more appropriate)...
I'll think about it some more.
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I've continued playing Coloot Idle and I seem to have reached a point of inflation. Whether this inflation will stop before I hit the number limit of the game I don't know. I want to find out, but the game has gotten really repetitive at this point. I'm willing to DM my save though if anyone's willing to do it.
I have also been playing Unnamed Space Idle (Web, Windows, Linux, just search for it) for the past few months, but haven't mentioned it here for a while since I mentioned it in a previous check-in. That mention has probably been forgotten by now so I'm mentioning it again.
This isn't incremental, but I've been playing NandGame, a puzzle game about building computer components from smaller computer components for a while. Currently stuck with trying to make a selector.
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This week I've been playing web-based button simulators. Namely, Demonin's Absolute Button Simulator 2 and Ducdat's Infinite Button Simulator. I think I prefer Infinite Button Simulator among the two. Both games are very grindy/repetitive and they make no attempt to hide it. It's charming in a strange way. I can't explain it fully - it's like these games have a sort of subtly shifting rhythm to them. Come to think of it, most incremental games also have their own rhythm; button simulators simply happen to be a sub-genre where I'm able to notice the nature of the rhythm very easily.
Vepro has published 3 games to galaxy.click. Of those 3, I've been playing Coloot Idle the most (but primarily because I've already played the other two). I'd consider it a semi-active simple game.
I only recently found out that Barribob has released a new game called Apex Machina. It lags a bit on my laptop but I like it. Take note that if you're on Linux you have to run it on a Chromium-based browser (and I'd assume the same for MacOS, but I haven't tested).
Oh yeah, there's also a Genshin Impact-themed incremental published to galaxy.click called nahidaQuest!. It wasn't my style and I'm unsure of its legality but I can see that there was quite a significant amount of effort put into it so you may like it.
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She probably does mean the Matrix space. incremental.social has a slightly different interface compared to other Mbin instances, with the Matrix space being linked to as "Chat" in the navbar, there being a "Code" button which links to the site's Forgejo instance, and the link to the list of magazines being listed under an icon on the right side of the navbar not present in other Mbin instances.
As for the engagement part, it may have something to do with the fact that the people organizing this place have/had ties to the incremental games community back on Reddit. I know I wouldn't have joined if that weren't the case.
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Cavernous 2 is a puzzle game with idle and incremental elements. In that game, you can passively gain stats to compensate for your lack of skill (in this case, good routes). However, there is a limit to how high these stats can go which is determined by how good the routes are. This makes it kind of redundant, and adds timewalls for skilled players later on in the game when stat grinding is strictly required. I'd either switch the passive stat gain system to not have an upper limit (making idling much more valuable) or replace it with a system that automatically sets those stats to the upper limits (removing idling altogether, though still incremental).
Speedrun Dimensions is a game made during a game jam which involves repeating short incremental "levels" to grind resources that boost your rate of progress in those levels so you can beat further levels. It can get repetitive though, and I'd rather change the system so that you passively gain metaprogression resources based on your best time and replaying the level only serves to lower that time.
Fundamental is a slow game. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I like it. However, during the quick parts of the game the user interface gets in the way of my speed (and my finger health). It's something I'd want to change, thought I don't know what to change it to.
If you'll notice, the first two issues are similar in nature. I'd imagine most of the changes people will reply with will have something to do with either pacing, the way certain resources are earned, quality-of-life, or how information is conveyed to the player.
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I've mostly been scouring itch.io for games to play lately, since I've felt like I've gone through all the GitHub-hosted games. A Dark Forest is a new game inspired by A Dark Room. I didn't get dragged into it, but perhaps you may. It's still in early development though. Evil Incremental is a game that reminds me of Orb of Creation, or at least the first parts of Orb of Creation. Perhaps a bit too much. Note that it was designed with a mobile UI in mind. More Curiosity is a short, micromanage-y incremental game. I think I recommended this a while back, but I'm too lazy to check.
Also, not an incremental but I've been enjoying I Wanna Lockpick since laleyou recommended it to me a few weeks earlier. It's a puzzle game with lots of numbers. I like numbers.
On a personal note: today is my first full day of summer vacation. Hope I don't waste it.
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Haha I didn't expect somebody to reply to a post so old. People should probably do that more, although the way discussions are formatted here probably acts as a detriment to that sort of conversation.
Anyways, I liked how you listed both shark-themed incrementals as one is abstract and the other less so. I do take slight issue with the fact that the text saying "shark incremental" is not the text that links to Shark Incremental.
Glad you're here.
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I don't like resets that are just a few seconds long or less than a second, because they tend to become repetitive and therefore boring. However, I believe that these issues are not just exclusive to quick resets. They can also be applied to games with longer reset cycles and in many of those cases the effects feel far more draining (an example: I've never been able to stick with Trimps for long). What I believe matters more is how much the game allows you to play at your own pace. I think a minute is a nice limit for a satisfying reset loop, though that is an arbitrary number so don't take it as law.
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I've been playing NGU Idle ever since I found out I was able to access Kongregate again (I don't have a Steam account). Other than that, I haven't been playing anything that I didn't mention last week.
There's a lot of games on that site, many of which I skimmed over. One of the games which caught my eye (non-incremental) was a game called "HP Atk Def", since the mechanics seemed similar to Tower of the Sorcerer and I had been searching for games like it ever since the discord server for Cavernous introduced me to it and the sub-genre it spawned. I'd say it was easy since stats were not retained between levels and thus you didn't have to think too far. But I liked it, and considered it a nice warm-up since I haven't actually played any other game in the subgenre. Oh, by the way, if you have any other recommendations for games like this let me know (although keep in mind I don't have money or a Steam account, and I can only read English).
I spent more time talking about a non-incremental game than I did about incremental games. I hope that's okay.
A lot of incremental games I see are in perpetual development. They are never truly finished, the developer always promises that another content update is around the corner. And those content updates get released, and the games eventually get really big. They grow to have prestige layers approaching the double digits, or months of content, or twenty-something interconnected systems, or whatever else it is that makes a game big. Now, I want to like these games. Progress is at the core of incremental games, and appreciating the amount of progress you've made since you started is something I think long-term incrementals can and should excel best at. Unfortunately, I find that most long-term incrementals are not designed such that you can appreciate all the progress you've made. At most, I can only compare myself today to myself a few days ago. It feels like many games would be better served if they were split into smaller games. At some point you're just adding content for its own sake. I want to know and let other people know possible ways of solving this issue, although I'm ultimately not sure whether it's even possible to solve. I'll try to help by citing what I believe to be a positive example: Evolve Idle is a game about growing civilizations. It is a tedious game. A lot of the game is spent repeating the same content over and over again for minuscule boosts. The amount of time you have to wait between actions increases as you progress further in the game. And if you stick to the areas of the game where the intervals get shorter, they eventually get either bored or exhausted with how much you have to monitor the game. But the game is also really expansive. Each little boost is a tiny bit more progress into allowing your civilizations to perform greater feats. Eventually your civilization gets to ascend to a higher plane of existence. I ended my playthrough there, but that is far from the end. The reason I ended it there was that I thought it was a fitting end. It was the best ending I could think of for a civilization, and much of the content after that was mostly just reaching endings I considered to be worse and then doing them under more difficult conditions. There was also the fact that I had been exposed to third-party automation scripts for the game and the progress I saw late-game people using these scripts ruined my sense of scale. ... that's a long example. It would be a longer, but I'm sleepy.
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@thepaperpilot@incremental.social what other shape has 5 similarly shaped objects of different colors, with each object connected to each other object through a line?
I feel like I've seen this before... (Game: Unnamed Space Idle) #incremental_games
This thread is dedicated to sharing mechanics or concepts you’ve found in incremental games that you think deserve more use or exploration. I’d prefer if you limited discussions to mechanics you’ve found in only 1 or 2 games, though I have no moderator powers to actually enforce this so if you really feel like sharing something share it :P I’ll list some of my own discoveries now. One concept I’ve been thinking about is the separation of games into loosely interconnected systems with different pacings that run simultaneously. The game that put this thought in my head was [Matter Dimensions](https://semenar.am/matter-dim/index.html), which uses a simple implementation of this. The game is active, although while inactive the game also lets you accumulate banked time which can be used to speed up the game. However, the banked time can also be used to purchase upgrades which increase banked time generation. Progress in the main game also increases the gain of banked time. The implementation is flawed however, as there are segments of the game where banked time is useless. (I’d imagine Anti-Idle: The Game probably implements a better and more complex version of this, but I haven’t played it yet.) Another concept I wish I saw more is the implementation of resource caps in [Gooboo](https://tendsty.github.io/gooboo/). In other games with resource caps, production stops when the cap is reached. In Gooboo, reaching the cap divides production by a factor that increases the more resources you generate. You’re also not allowed to spend more of any resource on a single upgrade than the cap. This mechanic breaks immersion a little, but it greatly reduces the compulsion to micromanage the game caused by resource caps. (Gooboo in general has a lot of interesting design decisions. It implements the first concept I stated, although its most active components are idle compared to what I usually play.)
To be more precise, what do you seek to accomplish when you develop a game and release it for the world to see? What is the effect you desire your games to have on their players, and what do you hope to gain from these games? That’s it. I don’t have any relevant backstory to tell you here.
Finished [https://galaxy.click/play/357](https://galaxy.click/play/357). I found it unusual that at one point in the game there's no actual need to interact with the content before that point, but that content isn't hidden. #incremental_games
First off, a definition: I define the “abstractness” of an incremental to be based on how much it is removed from other genres. For example, Kittens Game and Clicker Heroes are not abstract – the first is themed around civilization building while the second one takes mechanics from RPGs. Meanwhile, Prestige Tree is a prime example of an abstract incremental game since its themes and mechanics don’t seem to have any clear origin in other genres. Swarm Simulator would still be abstract, although less so since the game has a semi-realistic theme. So then, the question - Do you have a preference for more abstract incremental games or for incremental games that incorporate more elements from other genres? What aspects about your preference make you prefer them? And how do you think the group you don’t prefer could improve? Personally, I like the idea of less abstract incremental games since they seem to provide more of a sense of “doing something” (even when I know this isn’t the case). However, I find myself more often than not rejecting most games of that kind since they don't live up to my expectations. The more abstract incrementals are easier to get into and because of that I find myself playing them more frequently.
It is a sort of tradition among some in the incremental games community to publish joke games every 1st of April. Many are quickly forgotten, some can be legitimately enjoyable, and a select few develop cult followings. This year is no exception. Here is the list of all April Fools games released this year that I know of: 1. [Pauahtan’s Pupils’ Trial of Prayer](https://asteriskman7.github.io/PPToP2/) - Also known as PPToP2. Takes systems from several other incremental games, some of which are also April Fools games. Does not autosave, so remember to save manually before you leave. 2. [Infinite Prestige](https://katakana1.github.io/infinite-prestige/) - An active incremental game with infinite minimal prestige layers. You will feel burdened by the lack of QoL. How far will you push before you get tired? The dev's challenge is to reach prestige layer 10. I implore you to go further. 3. [galaxy.click counter](https://galaxy.click/counter) - Not so much a game as much as a response to Reddit's April Fools event. Who in their right mind would create a button, and then prevent people from clicking it more than once? Horrifying, I say, horrifying! Thankfully the galaxy.click counter has no such limitations on click count, although it does require an online account. 4. [Emoji Recycling Center](https://asteriskman7.github.io/EmojiRecyclingCenter/) - I don't know if this even is an April Fools game to be honest. I'm legitimately enjoying this, though like PPToP2 it also does not have autosave. ...and that's it! If there are any that I missed, please reply in the comments for all to see. There's apparently an April Fools incremental game jam and I didn't look at the submissions. P.S. Antimatter Dimensions' Reality update was finally ported to the mobile version of the game this April 1st. It's not a joke, though since it did happen on that day I'm including it here as a side note.
Are there any incremental games I haven't heard of that allow for continuous significant offline progression (that is, you can make substantial progress by waiting even if you've already been away from the game for a month)? I'm thinking of something along the lines of Gooboo, though I'd like something faster paced. #IncrementalGameRequest #incremental_games
(Edit: The author primarily plays incremental games via a web browser, and is not well-acquainted with the more casual mobile incremental game community if there is one. Because of this, please note that the "innovations in the genre" referred to in this post come mostly from web-based incrementals, and the "morally dubious practices" mostly refer to the monetization strategies used by mobile games.) Historically, incremental games have primarily been free to play. They're released either as mobile apps or on websites, with the mobile applications making money via advertisements and in-app purchases while the web games are made by hobbyists with little to no financial incentives. Because of this, much of the innovations in the incremental genre can trace their roots to free games. (and open source, though that may be simply because GitHub made free hosting more accessible. That's a topic for another day, though.) However, I've seen a trend in recent times where incremental game enthusiasts are more willing to play and recommend paid incremental games. Examples of these paid recommendations are Increlution, Magic Research, (the) Gnorp Apologue, and Sixty Four. On one hand, it's nice that incremental gamedevs are able to make money without resorting to morally dubious practices. On the other hand, it kind of begs the question as to what these games do to warrant their price tags given the amount of quality incremental games that can be played for free. These highly recommended paid incremental games definitely have a unique component that makes players buy them whether it be story, graphic design (sorely missing in a lot of incrementals), or simply a nice blend of mechanics. But if that's what a game needs to deserve money, then surely many of the free quality incremental games responsible for innovations in the genre deserve some support as well (if they're willing to take it)? (Idk where to put this but there's also the consideration that incremental games may have harmful effects on a person's mental health on a level more pronounced than most other genres. Make of that what you will.) Okay, my thoughts are getting scrambled. I will leave you with a few questions (which are mostly the same question): 1) What exactly determines how much you'd be willing to pay for an incremental? Are there any paid incremental games you would've purchased if it had a lower (non-zero) price tag? 2) Similarly, are there any free incrementals you'd be willing to pay money to play? And how much would you be willing to pay in order to play them? 3) What are your opinions on supporting the developers of free incremental games? (Or just free games in general) Forgive me if this post is unclear or repeating itself. I spent an hour writing this and I don't want to spend any more time on it.
Currently playing [](https://galaxy.click/play/264). There's something about the game that makes me feel like I'm exploring it as I play (and I didn't expect it to come from a Prestige Tree mod of all things!) #incremental_games
How much do you care about the resource consumption of incremental games? Hey, thought I'd break the pattern of thepaperpilot being the only person posting. Now thepaperpilot and I will be the only people posting. Yesterday, someone on the r/incremental_games Discord server asked if people preferred 2D or 3D graphics in incremental games. I responded with a preference for 2D graphics since I thought 3D games would be too resource heavy for my computer to handle. This got me thinking, how much are people willing to tolerate heavy resource consumption in incremental games? I'd assume that incremental games are set to a different standard than other kinds of games since a lot of them are supposed to be run in the background. P.S. if you're that person from the discord, come and say hi once you've managed to join us! This place probably needs some simpler questions. I feel I've gotten too complex with this one.