Why It's Heresy to Read the Bible Literally: An Interview with John Shelby Spong
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    ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 1:27 TR1624 [27] ομοιως τε και οι αρσενες αφεντες την φυσικην χρησιν της θηλειας εξεκαυθησαν εν τη ορεξει αυτων εις αλληλους αρσενες εν αρσεσιν την ασχημοσυνην κατεργαζομενοι και την αντιμισθιαν ην εδει της πλανης αυτων εν εαυτοις απολαμβανοντες

    ΠΡΟΣ ΤΙΜΟΘΕΟΝ Α΄ 1:8-11 TR1624 [8] οιδαμεν δε οτι καλος ο νομος εαν τις αυτω νομιμως χρηται [9] ειδως τουτο οτι δικαιω νομος ου κειται ανομοις δε και ανυποτακτοις ασεβεσιν και αμαρτωλοις ανοσιοις και βεβηλοις πατραλωαις και μητραλωαις ανδροφονοις [10] πορνοις αρσενοκοιταις ανδραποδισταις ψευσταις επιορκοις και ει τι ετερον τη υγιαινουση διδασκαλια αντικειται [11] κατα το ευαγγελιον της δοξης του μακαριου θεου ο επιστευθην εγω

    ΠΡΟΣ ΚΟΡΙΝΘΙΟΥΣ Α΄ 6:9 TR1624 [9] η ουκ οιδατε οτι αδικοι βασιλειαν θεου ου κληρονομησουσιν μη πλανασθε ουτε πορνοι ουτε ειδωλολατραι ουτε μοιχοι ουτε μαλακοι ουτε αρσενοκοιται

    Better? Or are you going to tell me that these manuscripts are somehow wrong, too?

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  • How come people who are against abortion are in favor of the death penalty? Kind of seems like a contradicition/
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    free healthcare and medical procedures for everyone including prisoners,

    Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

    covering all prescription drugs,

    Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

    free school lunches,

    Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

    decommodifying housing

    Yes. This policy is also endorsed by the politician that I voted for.

    abolishing landlords,

    I believe landlords should exist but in limited circumstances. I.E., your nice old man using a house for his retirement fund who treats his tenants well and gives them a fair price for it. I am completely against corporate and/or foreign landlords who are exploiting people for profit.

    severely limiting the police in favor of various civil servants for most cases,

    Depends on circumstances. A good well trained police force is good, but police shouldn't be used as therapists. If a problem can be fixed more effectively by not throwing more police at it, then I'm for not throwing police at it.

    strict gun control

    Yes

    red flag laws,

    No idea what this means, apologies

    reducing cars in favor of alternative transportation methods and public transit,

    Yes, and one of my main Christian influences in my life was a civil servant who advocated and worked for this

    redesigning cities into 15 minute cities to facilitate that,

    Yes. That's a great idea.

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  • Why It's Heresy to Read the Bible Literally: An Interview with John Shelby Spong
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    Romans 1:27 ESV [27] and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    1 Timothy 1:8-11 ESV [8] Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, [9] understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, [10] the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, [11] in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

    1 Corinthians 6:9 ESV [9] Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

    Come on, the Bible is quite clear on this.

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    The author implied strongly that Jesus didn't literally feed the 5000, was born of the Virgin Mary, etc. Doing so would strip Him of His most important aspect- His divinity.

    Taiwan and Thailand are the only countries in Asia to allow same-sex marriage. The likes of Mainland China and Japan escaped colonisation. The Middle East adheres to Islam, not Christianity, which has the same moral rule regarding Homosexuality (if not made harsher under Sharia)

    The justification of Homosexuality doesn't come from any objective standard of morality- just from culture.

    While the verses in the Bible about Homosexuality couldn't be clearer.

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    I never thought someone could take the clear prophecies pointing towards Jesus throughout the old testament and distort them to think "yeah this means Jesus isn't literally real". Also the quotation where he claims Christians are still holding onto fourth century beliefs as if it's a bad thing- does that mean Morality is subjective? That what was moral 1600 years ago isn't moral now?

    There's also undertones of white supremacy to this attitude as well. Suddenly, what white society sees as moral is morally correct. Taking the Bible seriously (or "literally"), we have the justification that we have the inspired word of God (which it claims to be, 2 Timothy 3:16). So we could take what the Bible says is wrong and have confidence that it is objectively wrong. The writer of this article claims they helped ordain someone in a homosexual relationship, when the Bible is clearly against this within the Church (Romans 1:27). So it seems he isn't taking that part literally. This is all fair and good, but if morality is whatever society says is okay and not the Bible, is it okay to refuse to give to the poor? In China homosexuality is seen as largely not okay, but giving to the poor is also frowned upon. Charity is non existent. For someone like the writer to say that the Chinese are wrong and need to learn to give to the poor and affirm homosexuality, they wouldn't be preaching from Christianity or objective morality, they would be preaching from their white supremacist mindset.

    Just a thought.

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    Sometimes I try and say small phrases to her in Chinese. We've already learned to argue in Chinese, lol

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    My Chinese girlfriend makes me watch Chinese Xiahongshu (think Instagram reels) videos on her phone with a cracked screen with her. No, I do not understand Chinese.

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    Like - what do I write in the card? What the hell do I get them? They come up so quickly as well.

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